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Informal meeting between Joseph Smith, Parley P. Pratt, Williard Richards and others

Sources: Joseph Smith Diary, February 9, 1843 (Williard Richards) and William Clayton Diary
Smith journalD&C 129 (Orson Pratt extraction from Clayton Diary)

Parley Pratt & other come in--Joseph explained the following

there are 3 admintuter [administering beings?] Angels, Spirits, Devils[.] one class in heaven[,] Angels [and] the spirits of just men made perfect--innumerable co of angels & spirits of just men made perfect. [Hebrews 12:22-23]

¶ an angel appears to you how will you prove him. ask him to shake hands if he has flesh & bones he is an Angel "spirit hath not flesh & bones."[Luke 24:39]

¶ spirit of a just man made perfect [is the other sort of Heavenly minister]. person in its tabernacle could hide its glory

¶ if David Patten1 or the Devil come. how would you determine [the difference] should you take hold of his hand you would not feel it. if it was a false[true] adminestiter[administrator] he would not do it

¶ true spirit will not give his hand

¶ the Devil will. 3 Keys

1 There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones--

2 For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

3 Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory.

4 When a messenger comes saying he has a message from God, offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you.

5 If he be an angel he will do so, and you will feel his hand.

6 If he be the spirit of a just man made perfect he will come in his glory; for that is the only way he can appear--

7 Ask him to shake hands with you, but he will not move, because it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to deceive; but he will still deliver his message.

8 If it be the devil as an angel of light, when you ask him to shake hands he will offer you his hand and you will not feel anything; you may therefore detect him.

9 These are three grand keys whereby you may know whether any administration is from God.

¶ a man come to me in Kirtland & told me he had seen an angel dressed so & so. I told him he had seen no angel there was no such dress in heaven he got mad. & went out in the street & commanded fire to come down out of heaven & consume me I laughed at him & told him he was one of Baals prophets his god did not not hear him. Jump up & cut yourself. & he commanded fire from heaven to consume my house. -

¶ when I was preaching in Philadelphia a quaker wanted a sign - I told him to be still. after sermon he wanted a sign. I told the congregation the man was an adulterer. "a wicked & adulterous generation." & the Lord to me in a revelation that any man who. wanted a sign was adulterous person. - "It is true said one for I caught him in the very act. - which he afterward confessed when he was baptized

¶ Parley Pratt asked for some council. & tomorrow evening was appointed before the Quorum of the Twelve.

A man came to me in Kirtland and told me he had seen an angel, and described his dress. I told him he had seen no angel, and that there was no such dress in heaven, he grew mad and went into the street, and commanded fire to come down out of heaven to consume me - I laughed at him and said, you are one of Baals prophets, your god does not hear you, jump up and cut yourself; and he commanded fire from heaven to consume my house. When I was preaching in Philadelphia, a Quaker called out for a sign, I told him to be still. After Sermon he again asked for a sign. I told the congregation the man was an adulterer, that a wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign, and that the Lord had said to me in a Revelation that any man who wanted a sign was an adultrorus person "it is true" cried one "for I caught him in the very act." which the man afterwards confessed when he was baptized.

1. David W. Patten, former LDS apostle, killed in 1838 in Missouri.

See also 27Jun39 and notes there.
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